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The Mixologist In The End Times Survival Debate: Parable of the Sower Live Discussion
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A doomsday story hits different when you’re laughing with a drink in hand and still realizing the warning might be real. We’re back for Thirsty Thursday with a Beehive Bellini and a look back at Octavia E. Butler’s Parable Of The Sower, including our very mixed reviews and the parts that stayed with us long after we closed the book.
We get into the fun argument first: who belongs on an apocalyptic dream team? Some of us draft medics, DIY builders, and people who can navigate without GPS. One of us refuses to drop the mixologist pick, because if the end is coming, we might not be here for a long time, but we will be here for a good time. That debate opens up bigger questions about survival, comfort, and what we think we’d actually do when scarcity, violence, and constant fear become the weather.
From there, we go deeper on Lauren Olamina, her hyperempathy syndrome, and why it’s so meaningful that Butler centers a young Black woman as the leader who builds community and creates Earthseed. We connect hyper empathy to the lived experience of Black women, including stereotypes, workplace inequity, and healthcare disparities like pain being dismissed and the ongoing Black maternal mortality crisis. Then we lighten it up with a reality dating show sidebar on age gaps and what’s too much.
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Cheers And The Beehive Bellini
SPEAKER_02All right, you guys, all right, ladies. Welcome back to Thirsty Thursday.
SPEAKER_00Another BGL live. Cheers! Cheers, cheers, cheers. All right. And we said this was our favorite car, the one that we liked the most from the recording. So if you haven't watched it, go back and watch it to know the recipe for this.
Parable Of The Sower First Reactions
SPEAKER_02Yes, this is the Beehive Bellini. Beehive Bellini. Yes. Lil' um champagne, little um little reposado tequila, all of our favorite things. All right. So, parable of the solar law. Parable of the soda. If I recall correctly, I gave it a sip. It was not like one of my top books, but I did enjoy it. Um, some of the other hosts, we're not gonna mention no names, did not really enjoy it. Okay, but before we know how we felt about it. Okay, some of us loved it. Actually, it was split. I think me and Steph both had sip, and then Lex and Star um sent it back, unfortunately. They just they could not buy with it, it was not their thing. Um when I went back and I listened to the episode, it was one I want to clear up because this in the episode we talked about building your apocalyptic dream team. And I got a lot of flat because my dream team included one of my homegirls, and I justified my pick because I say, you know, she's a great mixologist, she makes a good dream.
SPEAKER_01Priorities, priorities, and y'all have to know if y'all didn't listen to the podcast or read the book. You if you read the book, you would understand why we are looking at Tasha like what?
SPEAKER_02So I received some heat for my apocalyptic dream team choice of having a mixologist on my team. I think I had like I had my husband, I had my son.
SPEAKER_00Oh it's like you know, you know, it's this little robot guy. There we go.
SPEAKER_02The way the technology becomes right, we can work with him. We we we try to figure him out a little bit still. Okay, all right. Um, oh yes, if I hold my hand up too much, then he thinks I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah. He's trying to, you know, okay, we're working it out. Okay, so this thing I received a lot of flack for my choice of the mixologists because they were like they were coming up with practical things like you know, doctors, media had emts, nurses on their teams, and I had forgotten about that. You know, I did. I had I had my hunter figure, had my son, had my husband, you know, he has a lot of skills. Um, I think I stressed the fact that I'm a Girl Scout, so that's right there. That's that's skills. Um, but the mixologists, that was the choice. Oh, and I had my mom looked on her because I thought she's very biblical and I need I need the Lord. The mixologist is the one that tripped them up because I did not have any medical care. And also, if you read the book, you know that they didn't really have spots. They were like, they had to like buy water.
The Apocalyptic Dream Team Debate
SPEAKER_00I don't know, is I don't know why I thought that although people were trying to buy water, they were gonna have like mixers, they were gonna have escalons on tap somewhere with some cranberry, a little sprites.
SPEAKER_02So I see how y'all might think that, but that was not the best choice. And so, first I was gonna I wanted to come on here to change my choice, but then as I was thinking about it throughout the day, I realized one thing about me. If it really was like apocalyptic times, I'm not really a fighter. I'm like, I'm tired, I'm I'm not like I'm not gonna be out here fighting the zombies, I'm not trying to get away. I don't have that kind of energy, all this running and it's stressful. That's not the life for me. So honestly, I don't plan to be here for a long time. So if I'm not gonna be here for a long time, I'm gonna be here for a good time. So I am standing ten toes down on my mixologist.
SPEAKER_01Are you now? Oh man, look at you taking white girls lead literally with the mixologists. That's where we are.
SPEAKER_02I stand on it again. I thought y'all had almost swayed me when y'all was talking about practical and stuff, you know, with the with the medics and things. I I was about to sway and I was gonna change up my team, but then when I thought about I was like, no, you know what? I'm I'm like I said, I'm not gonna be here for a long time, but I'll be here for a good time.
SPEAKER_01And I don't know how long that good time is gonna last in California where it was set up and the way they were traveling, things were falling apart.
SPEAKER_00Actually, can one of y'all pull up the TikTok? Because I want to make sure we are engaging with people if they're asking questions. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, just to make sure we're not missing anything, but uh in case they have questions about um why I would need a mixologist during these so-so dark times.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm gonna of course stick with mine because I did have practical people on there and wanted to make sure.
SPEAKER_00Do you have a two-factor camera? This is ours. No, yours because we can't watch them live.
SPEAKER_02I'm sorry, y'all. You know, when you come for the live, you you're gonna get live all of it, you're gonna get live stuff.
SPEAKER_00Steph is gonna do better with yeah, but what did you say about who did you have?
SPEAKER_01I had practical people. I had my hubby, my son, because he's young, and we need the arms and the muscles, and then my best friend because Ronnie, because she's another Jeff, where it's DIYs, they make it work, they don't find a way for us to survive, and then I my sorry sister and good girlfriend Felion because she's a nurse, and we need a medical staff on our team, and then me, and that's my dream team.
SPEAKER_00I'm trying to remember, I just remember who I said. Surely I said my husband. You did you did just a medic. Well, he's my husband, but also he's a medic. I feel like I might have said one of my friends because she's really good at directions, like she can always she can operate in this world without a GPS, which is yeah, but yeah, you definitely had, yeah, but I don't remember who my other person was. It was probably someone good, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_02It might have been my sister, it was another one of your no, it was another one of your co-workers. The um do I want to say timer? I think you said something about like his organization, or it was something it was somebody, another one of your co-workers, and it was something about organization skills.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, period. Okay, well, I mean, I need a hunter on my team, so if I didn't have one, that's what I would need.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so now that we're all in agreement that my dream team is still quite dreamy.
SPEAKER_00And are we in agreement? More so you're 10 toes on your hands. Yeah, I am because she's still not a long time, but I feel that though, because I wouldn't think she'd be over there with the pyros, she might be possible pyros, but I feel that.
SPEAKER_02I if the world is ending, I'm they was walking from like LA to the Canada, like that's a lot of walking. It's too much for me. Um I ain't gonna be able to do it. Survival.
SPEAKER_01There's survival. It's like World War Z. What do you do?
SPEAKER_02I'm not I'm gonna have to drink it. I'm gonna lay down. Like I don't worry about it.
SPEAKER_01That's how I feel. I'm gonna just drink a ton and drink. So you would have stayed on the inside of the wall, you would have never left it. You would have left if if you read the book and listened to the podcast, you would know that they lived in neighborhoods that had tall walls because they had pyros that would and when I say pyros, people are heavily on drugs.
SPEAKER_02I wouldn't let them people go ahead and just say me out at the wall. Like only as soon as they start talking about walking to Canada, I was like, ooh, ooh, for that reason I'm out. Uh well, I'm not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01I I think I would try for a little while. I think I would give it a good I love it. With the dream team that I have, I think I would give it a go.
SPEAKER_00If I had my team, yes, I would try my hardest, but I would know when to throw in the flag. Like, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01Sorry in the beginning. My flag is thrown on the grass outside her out.
SPEAKER_00Listen, because I just at the end of the day, I hate being uncomfortable. I that is the first way to piss me off. I hate being uncomfortable and starving to death, you're thirsty, you're hot, you're cold, you have no shelter. Uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01All of it's uncomfortable, but they still find a way for intimacy. That's what be killing me. That's what you're killing me.
SPEAKER_02They were hunching, they only bathe in every three days, and they still was managing to get their hunch on, like, and she done found like this old old dude.
SPEAKER_01It was a lot, like well, we have to discuss about Lauren because Lauren is the main character, and she was the one that took them on this journey.
SPEAKER_02And they did, they fought, and that thing that is one of the things I liked about it again. They all followed this young black woman, yes, um, to get them, like they trusted her. Um, they would follow their binding to her religious beliefs, so she created a whole new religion, and they trusted her to get to basically get them to what let's call the promised land. Um, and and they did. I mean, and so she led them. Um, and so that part that's putting the thing. That was like one of my favorite things about the book. You you know, I love I'm here for a black, um, a black heroine.
SPEAKER_01You know, and she did that. She was and she had a condition where she felt someone, she had felt someone else's pain, hyper empathy. That's what she had. And so she it was very hard for her because it was very volatile when they would go walk, and you had to make sure you had to you're constantly looking over your shoulder, having weapons was very scarce. And when you did have a weapon, did you have ammunition? So, with Lauren being the lead of it all, she did that with her empathy because it was a struggle. She had moments where she felt other people's hurt and it would take her out, and so that's something that you had to learn how to control, especially being on that journey. Like it wasn't a joyous thing, you had to be careful, and it could take you out. If she looked at someone and saw them get hurt and they fell, she would fall too, and so it was just a lot with Lauren, but she was a very young, courageous young lady, like she was 18 years old, 18, 19 years old, taking on this world and still found a way to find something better than herself, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Hope love, a new religion. She says like she found all the things.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she did, she did, and she brought people along, and the the journey ends with them finding land to start a new community, and it does leave you on a cliffhanger. So there is a part two of the book. The author did pass away. Um, so when she wrote the book, she wrote it in the times of 2025, and now it's 2026, and she wrote the book in the 90s 93, yes, right, yeah, and it was proposed to be in the future at 2025. So here we are.
SPEAKER_00When we read the book, it's 2025, and we're like, It's not like this, it's not like this at all, but also low-key it is just with our political climate, but like also, we're not in in we're not a desolate society, it's not desolate, but sometimes it does feel like people react to very it's political.
SPEAKER_02Like it could be like it could happen tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like I wouldn't be surprised.
SPEAKER_01I wouldn't be surprised because even with Lauren and them, it was you still had your lower class, middle class, upper class, upper class had the money, so they were able to do a lot more than the middle class, and then definitely the lower class were the pyros that were on drugs and they wanted to put turn, you know, what light people up and put them on fire.
SPEAKER_02They just wanted to set people on fire, yeah, set people and things. Yeah, I mean, they wanted to get lit, if you will.
Hyper Empathy And Black Women’s Burden
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure, for sure. But I know something that we discussed when we were kind of planning and get ready, getting ready for the live, was um the conversation around why we thought it was very clever of Octavia to make a black woman have hyper empathy.
SPEAKER_02Um, and I wanted to talk about that because me too. You brought that point up at the end, even though after you had already you know dragged the book and discussed the facts that you did not enjoy it. I think as we started really talking through things at the end, you're like, okay, I I can see where she was going, I could see why certain things were, and yes, and bring up that point of making um this black woman, Lauren, her superpower, I mean, if you will, be hyper empathy and like correlating that to the life experience, yeah, like what the world really is. Because I mean, I don't know. I mean, as as black women, I mean, and we it oftentimes feels like we have the weight of the world on our shoulders, right? When you start like, you know, you gotta be there for everybody, and then you kind of feel like when it comes to things, we always somehow manage to be at the bottom of the total pole when we're when we're ranking things, you know, because okay, well, now you thought, okay, well, black in America, that's a whole thing, female, like it's so you're just kind of like it's whoo, this load is heavy, but then yet at the same time managing to still have to push through.
SPEAKER_00And I think what was clever is imagine, like, I think we know the toll that a heavy load takes on us, like spiritually, mentally, but the fact that Lauren had to physically feel like like I think she brought up like some if someone broke her leg, her leg may not physically be broken, but she would still every single thing that comes with having a broken leg, and so and even to the point where she shot somebody, so she's trying to defend her family.
SPEAKER_02If she shoots somebody, she would feel that pain too. So then you gotta be like, okay, well, I'm the if I defend myself, but I'm also feeling the pain, it's just like bruh, something gotta give.
SPEAKER_00It's definitely the lived experience for sure.
SPEAKER_01As black women, it's just the characterization that we're given. We're angry, we're aggressive, we're you know, and it's like, no, we're not.
SPEAKER_00And but at the end of the day, we can handle it though. So keep piling it on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that thing too. We're expecting okay, we're expect to be super strong and handle all the things and do all things, and I mean, and so sometimes it's almost to our detriment that not for nothing, we've been able to accomplish so much, even when everything is stacked against us, even when we do feel like we have to do everything and be everything to everyone, we still are able to get up, push, and get it all done. Um, sometimes I will say, like, to our to our detriment, because I feel like at least I know, like for me, I feel like I was raised on the idea of um, you got it, you can do it, you can do it. Like, you know, there was nothing I I couldn't do, but sometimes girl sis be tired. Tired, and it's like, well, when when do we get to be tired? When when do we get to have who gets to be where's our soft place to land?
SPEAKER_01Correct. Can I pass the baton for a minute? Yeah, just a second, 30 seconds. Not even, girl, give me a couple days. Yeah, just a reprieve. Just a reprieve. And I think, and that's what bothers me about society with black women, especially women when they go into the hospital, is you don't get treated the same way, and it's like you you have a high pain tolerance. It's like, who said that? And why would you assume that? You know, and it's like you don't need pain meds or you don't need etc. And so I feel like society boxes certain cultures, and you know, your skin tone might make a difference on how you're being treated, which is truly unfair, and everybody is different. Like if you're a doctor or whatever you are, you have to take you have to take the precaution and listen to your patients. So I think for me, my issue with society and black women is how they're treated when they go into the medical area anywhere, the hospital. I think that, and then of course, you know, the aggressive and you know, you you're angry, and it's not angry, it's none of that. It's just that you just make that assumption just because I get a little elevated because I'm protecting my child or I'm protecting my family or whatever the case may be. So I do appreciate that about Octavia is putting Lauren in that role as at a young age, but it's still a lot, it's still a lot, you know, for a young woman. But I think with her father being um a pastor and being, you know, he and he kind of raised her to be that way, like, and she made sense with a lot of things that she did. She was reading, like she would read books about um farming and planting, and she wanted to start all over, she wanted a new world, and she had her mindset even at a very young age, and you know, I'll I'll follow Lauren, I'll follow her, but I don't think it kind of goes back to like, I mean, well, like you said, like as far as healthcare goes, and I know like the fact that highly educated black women are still dying at like this crazy rate.
SPEAKER_02I don't want to misquote the number, um, in childbirth. You're like, in 2026, it shouldn't be this people, okay. These are people I say again, highly educated, some even doctors themselves and the medical field themselves, um, with insurance, with all the things, and then they go to hospital and they're dying in childbirth. Like, what at these crazy rates? It's like, but why? Because somebody didn't listen, or and then if they do try to advocate for themselves, like I said, then it's then the things, oh well, you know, angry black woman, she's she's so angry, she's so hostile. Why she mad?
SPEAKER_00Well, I you didn't give me no pain medicine, and I'm having a baby, I'm medicine through me right now, a whole person ripping its way into the earth right now. Yeah, you're asking me, Why do you need an epidural?
SPEAKER_02Right, that's it, and then I said, And then when you when you just simply want to advocate for yourself, like so if we so here we are trying to move through the world where we we want to advocate for ourselves, but also trying to avoid again the stigma of being an angry black woman, but sometimes, yeah, sometimes we is angry, sometimes we are mad because I'm tired. Like, I I'm tired, I want to be listened to, I want to be believed, and also I want help.
SPEAKER_00Like, and anyone in that position, white, brown, orange, beige, purple, would also be angry. So let's get an understanding of that too. Like, why is it always go back to the angry black woman?
SPEAKER_01Please and thank you. Please and thank you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, and again, that's a crap. I mean, it's not just healthcare, it's where we make pennies on the dollar and the workplace. Like, we have the we're like the most educated, we have more master's degrees than any other group, but the pay doesn't um doesn't match up with that, the um managerial positions don't match up with that. It's like all of the things, yeah. And so I don't know because I'm thinking, okay, if Octavia, she wrote this in the 90s, it may have been at that point where um trying to think like where were we at? Is I was still in high school, so I don't really know exactly where we were at as site, but I do feel like I mean what was when was like the black girl magic era? Was that when when my daughter would have been coming up? So in the early 2000s, that when we started Black Girl Magic.
SPEAKER_00Black girl magic was no, not the early 2000s, it wasn't it? It's definitely the 2010s for that specific era of time.
Age Gaps And Dating Show Chaos
SPEAKER_02Okay, but then now we sort of roll it back up like no, we're not magic, and we we're real people, and we we're real people that gotta be treated like everybody else.
SPEAKER_00No, yes, but on a lighter note though, because I don't know if y'all I love trash TV, I love reality TV, I love dating shows, things like that. So Netflix actually just dropped a show yesterday, and it's a dating show about like dating outside of your age range. What's the name of it? Uh I know what you're talking about. Age is what is it called? Age of attraction or something. I think it's age of attraction. And so what is the highest, like what is the oldest y'all would date? Because in the book in the book, Laura was about 18. She was 18, and then the man she was messing around was what 50? No, dog, I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER_01You about 50 or 60, you 50.
SPEAKER_0050. I think he was like 55. How high would y'all go? Because yeah, that's that show. We are not endorsed by Netflix at all, but that is a show.
SPEAKER_02Well, no, let me say that's that's a no for me. I I don't think I like old balls. So I mean I was young, like I don't think I would like that. I mean, again, when you age with somebody, so I mean, well, I mean, I'm not the one to ask. I think my husband since we were baby. We was we've been together since we were 20. So we've aged together. But if I was like young and high and tight and fine, I don't know if I want somebody older and uh uh uh I've been doing depending on where I am in life, like because I did meet Jack and he
SPEAKER_01He is five and a half years older than me. So it depends on there's the same age. Right. But it depends on when I met him. And I'm not gonna divulge all that because people be talking, you know, and I'm just not gonna do it. But I think for me, I don't know if I could go no more than 10 years. Like I 10 years would be pushing it for me. But that 15, 20 year mark, it's just like you're at different stages of your life.
SPEAKER_02We don't even have the same things in common.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you they have things the same things in common, but I think your perspective is different, very different and your lived experience.
SPEAKER_02You're about to retire, and I'm just trying to like kick things off.
SPEAKER_00Like I so here's the thing because me and my husband talked about this last night because we were watching the show. He feels like five years is his cap. Like, even with the age that he is now, he wouldn't date anybody older than five years. His what do they call that? His senior.
SPEAKER_03Is that what they say?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, if I were to be back on the dating market right now, knowing that I'm I'm about to be 30 in a couple months, I feel like I would, my max would be like 45, 45 or 50, honestly. At this, if I was 30. Now, if I was 20, no, it'd be a 30.
SPEAKER_02It would be like a 30, 32, 40 is maybe a thing because 40 does not feel old, like 40 is still like young. So regardless of so even if you were like 20, you're 25, you could date a 40 year old because again, that's still young. Something about I feel like well, again, and I'm not even if you're 30, 50, I would do 50. I don't know if I was 30. Now I'm only I'm only two years away from 50. So, but right now I'm like, oh, 50 just feel old, but nothing. You're not old in a coming years. I'll be 50. I'm like, nah, I'm 50 young. I would just be a started at 50. I would just be a 40.
SPEAKER_00Like, because my hubby, oh no, we put our hand up too.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's neat. I'd be talking with my hands. Okay, the little robot. He hates us. He hates that I talk with my hands. It's a problem.
SPEAKER_00Okay, we're good.
SPEAKER_01We back.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, no, definitely now. At the age I am now, I would do 50. But if I was 18, I'm not no.
SPEAKER_02All right, we're gonna say people in the comments. Okay, people in the comments tell us how far of an age gap are are you willing to go? What's how many years is too many years?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that 15. When it starts getting 15 plus, it just depends, and especially what age you are. When you start, yeah, that matters.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know that I just 15-year age gap is big. That is that is that's a whole decade, like over a decade apart. Like this, I uh I might yeah the 80s was not the 60s.
SPEAKER_00No, uh if you're in your 20s, late 20s, it had to be your late.
SPEAKER_01I was about to change the whole answer if you're in your 20s, because I'll give you five-year cap, like five for you, you know, five to seven, depending on what age no matter where you are in your 20s, because 22 is much different than 27, 27, or even okay.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we talked about going up.
SPEAKER_02Would you date a younger guy?
SPEAKER_00No, I will not date somebody in my 20s. If I was 50, maybe I'd go to like 45, maybe 40, but with this age that I am right now, I will not be dating someone in their 20s.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, okay, only for sexual reasons, that would be the only reason because you ain't taking me out to where I want to go eat because my palate is not what your palate is.
SPEAKER_00To that, okay.
SPEAKER_01So you're just giving me stuff in the bedroom. That's that's about it, and it better be great because that's the only reason. But I ain't going out.
SPEAKER_02Okay, if I was single, would I date younger? Okay, so I'm I'm 47. I would, but not that. I feel like it's different with girls, though. Yeah, but it's it's it's different with girls. I don't think I couldn't see myself dating a younger guy, I'll be honest with you. I just only because it's just like I feel like men tend, I mean, I don't want to be stereotyping, but they say, you know, men mature later. And that's why the females. So already I'm like, if I'm for instance, I'm gonna date some 30-year-old guy, he mm-mm, not gonna be babysitting here.
SPEAKER_01Like, no, like the difference is if I'm I'm 47 and he's in his 30s, you got kids because that's we're tapped out. Yeah, we're tapped out.
SPEAKER_00That's what I said. It's different for guys because yeah, I mean, I'm younger than my husband, but like it's it's it's different. It is, yeah, but like it's different. It is.
SPEAKER_02I could not even imagine because you I do I do have a friend who she ended up, she had like a second marriage, so she um even though she had like her kids, she was done having kids, like her kids, they were like teenagers getting ready to be leaving, and then she got married again, and he wanted kids, so then she ended up having like more kids. I was like, girl, ain't no way what would I look like being in my 40s talking about? Girl, I'd be so mad. I would be so mad.
SPEAKER_01Me too. I told Jeff if anything ever happened to us the next guy, you better embrace these two. I got because uh shop is closed, it's over.
SPEAKER_02By the time Amaya was five, I was like, Oh no, we there's what could I look like? Star Noble, I get no. All the she already she in kindergarten. You want me to start with new?
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna need you to put your hair down.
SPEAKER_02Oh my I hate everybody. Oh, um, okay. Comment to Mustard Easy on the man, Tasha. That's probably Star. You know, we do love our black men, but I just don't want a young one. One thing, let me tell y'all something about Star. She's not here, so we're gonna talk talking about her. One thing about Star, you're not gonna say nothing bad about no black man in front of the star.
SPEAKER_00Like, even if they deserve it, because sometimes they deserve it. You no one is safe in my book.
SPEAKER_02Let me tell you, you not never finna say nothing bad about no black man in front of the star because she is not here for that at all.
SPEAKER_01We didn't say nothing bad, we just said we don't want to young one.
SPEAKER_00We're talking about men in general, men in general, men in general, you know.
SPEAKER_01You just don't want no young one, not at all, at all. It would only be for bedroom reasons. That would be the only reason.
SPEAKER_02Okay, well, apparently, you so it's not that you don't want one, but you like I'm not dating him, I'm just I'm just gonna sleep with him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I because what could I offer you in my 40s? Like, what could I offer you in your 20s? You know what I'm saying? Like, I know people oh, he wants your money, he wants you to be a what it what's the sugar mama, like his yeah, the sugar mama, no, because even bedroom reasons is debatable. I mean, but I'm saying if it's bedroom reasons, it's that it has to be exceptional. It's better known. Correct, it has to be exceptional, but for the most part, well, and not for nothing.
SPEAKER_02I feel like men actually get better with age, and once they speak about it's not debatable. I don't want them looking up when you don't know when you do it.
SPEAKER_0021 year olds is not, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm definitely not a 21-year-old. I'm thinking more in your later 20s. Like, I can't even I can't look at them. Them 20 young 20-year-olds look like babies. I can't. My child is that age.
SPEAKER_02I don't think I got kids in mid 20s, nine away. I can't no, you ain't got no fun.
SPEAKER_00But on that show, they be, yeah. I said, wow.
SPEAKER_01Wow. I heard I think I read one girl said she felt like she was dating her dad. Yep, no, that says no. That's a no, then.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so are there any older women with younger guys on the show? Yeah, okay. So the one, the first couple, if and if you watch it, just I'm sorry, it's about to be a spoiler, just break the spoiler mind. So the very first couple at the end of the episode, if they choose to be locked in with each other, they go into this room and then they reveal their ages because the whole time they're talking, they don't know how old each other are until they make a connection and want to commit to each other. So I think in that first couple, the girl, the woman was 54, and the guy was 27. Oh no, and her oldest child was 29. Not it, not so she had a 29-year-old, a 25-year-old, and a 22-year-old. And the guy that she chose to commit to is a 27-year-old. It's immediately an over. But they had already had this connection, they already been kissing and stuck in face and woo-woo woo woo.
SPEAKER_02You cannot be the same age as my children. Like, cuz then I feel it. I feel an it. Like, just even if you've already been like, We've kissed. I feel like in our converse, in our conversations, I would know that you're my child's gotta be like, What's what's your hobbies? Are you at a game? Are you you be on the game? What games you play? Oh no, you a child. So I don't I don't feel like I would have been in that situation because again, I'm asking questions and I I know what questions to ask to be able to figure out how old you are. And if I feel like you the same age range as my children, it's immediately a no because that's an it. Because then I'm and then again, I'll bring you home. I said, and honestly, my sons, they they don't really hold their tongue or stuff. So I feel like I'm bringing you the things I had it. They be like, real mom, this is what we doing, Tasha. You know, all of a sudden I go from mom to Tasha, and it's it's awkward, and that's what they be doing.
SPEAKER_01Well, they be happy with Lauren. Lauren got her auran, yeah.
SPEAKER_02She only knew that old man about two days and was like, Hey, you can get it if you want it.
SPEAKER_00Like, because he was talking about I I got a home for you, I got money, I got you could come with me.
SPEAKER_01You can come with me. He said he was gonna take care of her, so I guess he took he took care of her, and they had a kid, and they had a kid. They did, yes, not in this book, yeah. I mean, every book too. I'm sorry, spoiler.
SPEAKER_00That was a big spoiler.
SPEAKER_01If if you decide to read the second book, which I haven't, but I didn't know what the overview. I read the overview of it all, and she did end up having a child.
Season One Wrap And Next Steps
SPEAKER_02Oh, wow, yeah, so which I do kind of love for her though. I mean, because they were like in this hard world situation, and that they were actually able, again, I don't understand why they was out there hunching in these woods, but they were actually able to still continue life and build a new life. She ended up finding love, having a baby, and all this came like out of what was really like a stark reality, like they didn't even have really any true like hope. It was just like dreams of what could what the future could be, and so that they were actually able to achieve it is sort of dope. So, I mean, cheers to you, girl. Get get yours, girl, get yours.
SPEAKER_01Yes, so well, make sure you guys, if you haven't listened to the podcast, make sure you go download it, check out our social media pages.
SPEAKER_00We cute, yes, and this is an official wrap on season one. This is the last thing y'all will get of season one content. So, thank you for hanging in there with us. It's been real, and season two is gonna be very fun, yeah. Yeah, we're excited.
SPEAKER_02So we're definitely excited to bring more books, more conversation, more liquor. You know, if y'all have any cocktail suggestions, please send them over. Um, I don't know if you guys if you've been following the podcast, you know, like I made drinks the last two episodes. She's not gonna let it go. I'm not gonna let it go.
SPEAKER_00She's not but she said y'all call my drink.
SPEAKER_02My co-host did not like the drinks I made, and I'm not sure if it was like I feel like I followed the recipe. Maybe I just didn't make it, I don't know. But um, I was a little bothered by it. So um I did sit down for the next episode. I took a break from making the drinks because I it was it was hard on my spirit, but I'm gonna be back. So send me a good recipe that's gonna wow my co-host, and I'm gonna make it. It's gonna be that's gonna be great because um I can't show up with the bat drink anymore. Yeah, like two episodes in a row, I showed up with the bat drink, and it did not sit right with my spirits. So all right, so we still love you, girl.
SPEAKER_00We still love you, still love you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01All right, friends. See you guys next month, too. Yes, have a good night.